microtuning with Logic

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microtuning with Logic

Post by lucytune » 30 Apr 2008, 12:48

You can download free microtuning codes for logic from this url:

http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboa ... _bend.html

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Enjoy!

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Post by astronmr201 » 30 Apr 2008, 13:14

This is fascinating.. thanks!
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Post by LennieJ » 30 Apr 2008, 17:29

but I don't understand! What does this do.

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Post by lucytune » 30 Apr 2008, 19:24

By using the microtuning codes you can adjust the fine tuning of any of the 12 notes for every octave. The tunings on the listed site are all derived from pi and the A's are set from A=440Hz. The tuning of the other 11 notes are all changed and "fine-tuned" so that you can produce closer control over consonance and dissonance and emulate "ethnic" and many other tunings. Follow the installation directions in the readme file and then experiment by trying various microtunings with some of your exisitng tracks to hear some of the possibilities. See page 945 of the Logic Pro 8 manual about "alternative tunings".

Full details can be found on this site:

http://www.lucytune.com

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Post by Tui » 03 May 2008, 10:09

Hi there,

Thank you so much for making your tuning tables available.

However, I have a question: Are you aware of tuning tables for Indian, Thai and Burmese tunings, that work in Logic 8? Where could I find them? I tried theses tables,

http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/downloads.html

but I found that the Asian tunings are not compatible with Logic, since they span more than 100 cent. Many thanks!

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Other microtuning tables in .scl format for Logic

Post by lucytune » 03 May 2008, 11:19

You can find many more microtunings at the Scala site:

http://www.xs4all.nl/~huygensf/scala/

The scala program is very well recommended although unfortunately at present the interface for OSX is via command line, and there are a myriad of commands to learn.

If you download scala it also delivers a vast collection of tuning files, although only a few LucyTuned files.

You can get the LucyTuned files from here:

http://www.lucytune.com/midi_and_keyboa ... _bend.html



Logic seems to be able to read most .scl files provided that they are limited to 12 notes per octave. I fail to see why there is a problem for you with intervals between notes being greater than 100 cents. List the notes and their values from say A and assign each note to the nearest 100 cents or named note. You may have to juggle them around for some tunings, but with LucyTuning they are already arranged and assigned in the way which make the most sense from a musical harmony point of view, so you can emulate Indian, Arabic, Indonesian etc. using the LucyTuning tables. Experiment and enjoy!

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Post by Tui » 03 May 2008, 11:25

Well, when I tried to load the Thai and Burmese tuning tables from the above site, Logic gave me an error message, saying something to the effect that intervals larger than 100 cent are "currently not supported".

With regard to your own tables, how would I know which one's emulate a particular tuning? The names of the tables don't appear to include those details.

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Using LucyTunings to produce exotic tunings

Post by lucytune » 03 May 2008, 13:44

You might try looking at the scala files from the scala site that interest you in a text editor. e.g. Smultron, and compare their format to the files that I produced in scala format for Logic.

There are a number of different applications which will generate microtunings in many of the various formats, or most formats can actually be edited as text files.

I have used LMSO:
http://www.nonoctave.com/tuning/LilMissScaleOven/
and
Max Magic Microtuner
http://news.harmony-central.com/Newp/20 ... r-1.6.html
as well as the tuning editing capability of Logic and exs to generate LucyTuning for Logic and other applications. There are so many conflicting formats for microtuning that I decided that the most convenient way to make LucyTunings available was to actually get the applications, try them all, and then experiment until I could offer downloads that I knew would actually work correctly for the listed DAW's and be compatible with eachother. Hence I chose A=440 as a reference pitch so that the audio output from the diverse applications would accurately mix and matchl e.g. LucyTuned Logic files would be in the same tuning as Melodyne files tuned using the same tuning table e.g. 3b2s etc. as listed in the readmes.

Have a look at this table which should give you some insight into the way in which LucyTuning can emulate "exotic" scales and tunings.

http://www.lucytune.com/new_to_lt/lucyt ... cales.html

If you want to understand the harmonic structure and reasoning behind this system check out this page:

http://www.lucytune.com/new_to_lt/pitch_05.html

and follow the links.

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Re: microtuning with Logic

Post by dimbleby » 27 Dec 2015, 19:02

Anyone help me out? I can't find my tuning tables folder for Logic Pro 8 and it's doing my head in.
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Re: microtuning with Logic

Post by groundhum » 28 Dec 2015, 13:52

Mine are at "/Library/Application Support/Logic/Tuning Tables"
It looks like you're looking at ~/Library/Application Support/Logic
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