license transfers?

darthboy75 · Post by **darthboy75** » 10 May 2008, 18:16

are license transfers legal with redmatica products?

thanks for the help.

Andrea Gozzi · Post by **Andrea Gozzi** » 12 May 2008, 02:04

No, the Redmatica licenses are not transferrable.

Andrea
Redmatica

darthboy75 · Post by **darthboy75** » 12 May 2008, 08:23

well... that's unfortunate.

any ideas on an affordable sampler vst/au that actually supports exs?

i ask because it seems ridiculous to spend another 300-400 on a sampler like kontakt or mach5 and not use their native format...what benefit would there be to importing a keymap made exs patch into kontakt, when there is plenty of editing and patch making capability within kontakt (and it's format is supported by samplers in a few different price ranges)?

Andrea Gozzi · Post by **Andrea Gozzi** » 12 May 2008, 08:42

any ideas on an affordable sampler vst/au that actually supports exs?

I assume you are not a Logic user. On which host would you like to use the sampler? (Steinberg, Digi, etc...)

i ask because it seems ridiculous to spend another 300-400 on a sampler like kontakt or mach5 and not use their native format...what benefit would there be to importing a keymap made exs patch into kontakt, when there is plenty of editing capability withing kontakt?

Assuming you are talking about Keymap, well, it's important to understand that Keymap is not a replacement for your sampler (any sampler), and your sampler (any sampler) is not a replacement for Keymap. To make an analogy, Keymap is like "Photoshop for sampled instruments", while a sampler is more "Final cut for sampled instruments". They both operate on images but have very different goals.
(If you are in the Los Angeles or S.Francisco area, you might want to come see our presentations in June, as they will give you a clear idea of what we are talking about).

BTW, keeping everything in EXS format means that the library you are building is not locked into a single format and sampler, as EXS can be imported by all major samplers. If you are going to spend time creating your own library, this is an important advantage, and from the feedback we receive, we see that many users are doing that way exactly for that reason.

Andrea
Redmatica

darthboy75 · Post by **darthboy75** » 12 May 2008, 09:14

forget it.

one day i'll just buy logic.

Andrea Gozzi · Post by **Andrea Gozzi** » 12 May 2008, 09:33

all i want to be able to do is to play exs samples from a vst or au plugin. that's not possible for under $300...i made the wrong purchase and i am totally screwed now. i've got a bunch of samplesets that won't play in anything but garageband. it's a joke. i even own ik multimedia's sampletank...i'd say that's a major sampler, but guess what? no exs import.

Sampletank is a *wonderful* application, but I'd compare it more with an XV5080 than an Emulator 4, so definitely a "major sample player", probably the "top sample player, but not exactly a "major sampler".

forget it, andrea...it's not your fault that i made a bad purchase. i'm just really feeling this one. i have to remember to go out of my way to find out about transfer policies before i purchase from now on and avoid all companies that take that opportunity away from me.

Of course I respect your opinion. Just let me say that I'm not sure you really did "a bad purchase". How did you expect to play the instruments without a sampler?

The reason for not allowing license transfer is not to "take opportunities away from you" and/or punish our users. If you notice, we offer demos and manuals for all of our applications, exactly so that you can evaluate for as long as you want. We have nothing to hide!

One of the reasons for not allowing license transfers is because in this way it's possible to offer the user a simpler way of using the software with his own (multiple) computers. Have you noticed that there is no way to deauthorize the software once you install it on your computer? You just use it forever, backup, restore, etc... and no copy protection hassles.

Andrea
Redmatica

darthboy75 · Post by **darthboy75** » 12 May 2008, 09:40

"How did you expect to play the instruments without a sampler?"

i own sampletank and ableton's sampler...but i am in desperate need of a plugin solution right away in another host. so...you see i own 2 samplers and keymap, but still need to spend another $300 to get things working. that upsets me. but i should have known apple would make things expensive and out of my reach. even thinking about exs without owning logic was terribly stupid.

ironically, the only thing i can do at this point is play the samplesets directly from keymap...so it is replacing my samplers for this performance, though not very conveniently.

Andrea Gozzi · Post by **Andrea Gozzi** » 12 May 2008, 09:42

Have you tried ableton live in rewire mode?

Andrea
Redmatica

darthboy75 · Post by **darthboy75** » 12 May 2008, 09:46

Andrea Gozzi wrote:Have you tried ableton live in rewire mode?

Andrea
Redmatica

thank you for the idea, but i'm using rax for a live performance and unfortunately there is no rewire support. i was actually trying to remove myself from the computer for this performance and did not even want to fire up ableton...

darthboy75 · Post by **darthboy75** » 12 May 2008, 09:48

i have to rethink all of this. i would love to be able to use keymap with some efficiency, but right now my workflow is terribly messed up.

Andrea Gozzi · Post by **Andrea Gozzi** » 12 May 2008, 09:54

You are very welcome to contact me by email (which I sent you in a PM) if you need any help with this.

Andrea
Redmatica

willb · Post by **willb** » 12 May 2008, 11:45

I've had very good luck importing EXS into Ableton Sampler.